Comments on: Why do Roman Catholic Priests don’t want to get married yet most of them have ample intimate affairs? http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html If You're Going To Do It, Do It Right! Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:20:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mommy_to_seven http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-591 Mommy_to_seven Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:28:47 +0000 http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html#comment-591 You are an idiot. Just because you make things up doesn't make it true. All you are trying to do is bash Cahtolic priests. The majority of them are good men at the service of God and humanity. Why don't you rag on the 80% of MARRIED men who can't keep it in their pants and have affairs? You are an idiot.

Just because you make things up doesn’t make it true.

All you are trying to do is bash Cahtolic priests. The majority of them are good men at the service of God and humanity.

Why don’t you rag on the 80% of MARRIED men who can’t keep it in their pants and have affairs?

]]> By: Danny H http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-590 Danny H Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:30:41 +0000 http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html#comment-590 Have you studied the teachings on celibacy? If not, then please do. Here's a link: http://catholic.com/library/Celibacy_and_the_Priesthood.asp Have you studied the teachings on celibacy? If not, then please do. Here’s a link:

http://catholic.com/library/Celibacy_and_the_Priesthood.asp

]]> By: The Architect http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-589 The Architect Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:31:59 +0000 http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html#comment-589 While Paul of Tarsus, the creator of Christianity hated women with such passion that he considered them worse than vermin, there is no evidence of the same organized homosexuality and pedophilia across the Catholic Church as other centuries. See: The Almanac of Evil http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/evil/evil_0160.htm While Jesus was almost certainly married to Mary Magdalene and had children, priests were not forced finally into strict celibacy until 1000 years ago when the church realized that local courts could in fact rule that church property could be lost through family-orientated priesthood actually helping the poor. So the church ruled that priests must be celibate and effectively "divorced" from their flock. Today, the level of pedophilia seems to be the lowest it has been since the formation of christianity by Paul of Tarsus to counter the message of Jesus. While Paul of Tarsus, the creator of Christianity hated women with such passion that he considered them worse than vermin, there is no evidence of the same organized homosexuality and pedophilia across the Catholic Church as other centuries.
See: The Almanac of Evil
http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/evil/evil_0160.htm

While Jesus was almost certainly married to Mary Magdalene and had children, priests were not forced finally into strict celibacy until 1000 years ago when the church realized that local courts could in fact rule that church property could be lost through family-orientated priesthood actually helping the poor. So the church ruled that priests must be celibate and effectively “divorced” from their flock.

Today, the level of pedophilia seems to be the lowest it has been since the formation of christianity by Paul of Tarsus to counter the message of Jesus.

]]> By: imacatholic2 http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-588 imacatholic2 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:04:24 +0000 http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html#comment-588 I would be very interested in your sources that state or prove that "most" of the over 400,000 priests in the world "have ample intimate affairs." + Celibate Clergy + The celibate clergy did not come into full bloom until about 1000 A.D. There were many married priests, bishops, and popes before this time. Priests, religious brothers and religious sisters (nuns) as part of their vocation choose not to marry following: + The practice recommended in the Bible + The example of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, and the Apostle Paul. +++ Scripture +++ + In Matthew 19:12, Jesus says, "Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it." + In Matthew 19:29, Jesus says, "And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life." + Matthew 22:30 - Jesus explains, "At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven." + In 1 Corinthians 7:1, Paul writes, "It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman." + Then in 1 Corinthians 7:7, Paul says, "Indeed, I wish everyone to be as I am." + In 1 Corinthians 7:27, Paul writes, "Are you free of a wife? Then do not look for a wife." + In 1 Corinthians 7:32-33, Paul teaches, "I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife." And in verse 38, "So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better." Paul recommends celibacy for full time ministers in the Church so that they are able to focus entirely upon God and building up His kingdom. He “who refrains from marriage will do better.” See also 1 Timothy 5:9-12, 2 Timothy 2:3-4, Revevation 14:4, Isaiah 56:3-7, and Jeremiah 16:1-4. +++ Scriptural Examples +++ Biblical role models of a celibate clergy came from John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Apostle Paul. John the Baptist and Jesus are both believed to have been celibate for their entire lives. Some scholars believe that the example of the Essenes influenced either or both Jesus and John the Baptist in their celibacy. WWJD? What would Jesus do? Jesus did not marry. The Apostle Paul is explicit about his celibacy (see 1 Cor. 7). There is also evidence in the gospel of Matthew for the practice of celibacy among at least some early Christians, in the famous passage about becoming “eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 19:12). The concept took many twists and turns over the years and will probably take a few more before Christ returns in glory. A priest is "married" to the Church. Some people think that a priest who takes his duties seriously cannot take proper care of a wife and family. "A man cannot serve two masters." With love in Christ. I would be very interested in your sources that state or prove that “most” of the over 400,000 priests in the world “have ample intimate affairs.”

+ Celibate Clergy +

The celibate clergy did not come into full bloom until about 1000 A.D. There were many married priests, bishops, and popes before this time.

Priests, religious brothers and religious sisters (nuns) as part of their vocation choose not to marry following:
+ The practice recommended in the Bible
+ The example of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, and the Apostle Paul.

+++ Scripture +++

+ In Matthew 19:12, Jesus says, “Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it.”

+ In Matthew 19:29, Jesus says, “And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life.”

+ Matthew 22:30 – Jesus explains, “At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven.”

+ In 1 Corinthians 7:1, Paul writes, “It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman.”

+ Then in 1 Corinthians 7:7, Paul says, “Indeed, I wish everyone to be as I am.”

+ In 1 Corinthians 7:27, Paul writes, “Are you free of a wife? Then do not look for a wife.”

+ In 1 Corinthians 7:32-33, Paul teaches, “I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife.” And in verse 38, “So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better.”

Paul recommends celibacy for full time ministers in the Church so that they are able to focus entirely upon God and building up His kingdom. He “who refrains from marriage will do better.”

See also 1 Timothy 5:9-12, 2 Timothy 2:3-4, Revevation 14:4, Isaiah 56:3-7, and Jeremiah 16:1-4.

+++ Scriptural Examples +++

Biblical role models of a celibate clergy came from John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Apostle Paul.

John the Baptist and Jesus are both believed to have been celibate for their entire lives. Some scholars believe that the example of the Essenes influenced either or both Jesus and John the Baptist in their celibacy.

WWJD? What would Jesus do? Jesus did not marry.

The Apostle Paul is explicit about his celibacy (see 1 Cor. 7). There is also evidence in the gospel of Matthew for the practice of celibacy among at least some early Christians, in the famous passage about becoming “eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 19:12).

The concept took many twists and turns over the years and will probably take a few more before Christ returns in glory.

A priest is “married” to the Church. Some people think that a priest who takes his duties seriously cannot take proper care of a wife and family. “A man cannot serve two masters.”

With love in Christ.

]]> By: Patricia http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html/comment-page-1#comment-587 Patricia Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:33:11 +0000 http://www.perfectsecretaffair.com/why-do-roman-catholic-priests-dont-want-to-get-married-yet-most-of-them-have-ample-intimate-affairs.html#comment-587 'Most of them', 'ample, intimate affairs'.............How can you speak so authoritatively? Have you done a survey? Please dont describe Catholic priests in this way. There are a few who have fallen into grave sin and we are sinners just like them. Leave it to God to judge. Why dont you talk of the priests who shepherd their flock faithfully, live in poverty to care for the poor, watch over the spiritual needs of those under their care, honor their vows of celibacy for life, those who have sacrificed everything to be a priest? It is a choice that they made to be celibate when they entered priesthood. Now just because there are a few who dont honor that vow of celibacy, I dont see why you think the Catholic church should throw that requirement out the window and ask their priests to marry. ‘Most of them’, ‘ample, intimate affairs’………….How can you speak so authoritatively? Have you done a survey?

Please dont describe Catholic priests in this way. There are a few who have fallen into grave sin and we are sinners just like them. Leave it to God to judge. Why dont you talk of the priests who shepherd their flock faithfully, live in poverty to care for the poor, watch over the spiritual needs of those under their care, honor their vows of celibacy for life, those who have sacrificed everything to be a priest?

It is a choice that they made to be celibate when they entered priesthood. Now just because there are a few who dont honor that vow of celibacy, I dont see why you think the Catholic church should throw that requirement out the window and ask their priests to marry.

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